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	<description>Toward Free Network Services</description>
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		<title>By: Social News :: autonomo.us</title>
		<link>http://autonomo.us/2008/07/an-open-software-services-ecology/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Social News :: autonomo.us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Social news Web sites have become a staple of many people&#8217;s Web experience. Examples include Reddit, Digg, Mixx, Yahoo! Buzz and Propeller. In my opinion, a flagship free network service for social news could be an important part of an open software services ecology. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Social news Web sites have become a staple of many people&#8217;s Web experience. Examples include Reddit, Digg, Mixx, Yahoo! Buzz and Propeller. In my opinion, a flagship free network service for social news could be an important part of an open software services ecology. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Magnolia M2: Free and Open Source Social Bookmarking :: autonomo.us</title>
		<link>http://autonomo.us/2008/07/an-open-software-services-ecology/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnolia M2: Free and Open Source Social Bookmarking :: autonomo.us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] An Open Software Services Ecology [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: MattKatz</title>
		<link>http://autonomo.us/2008/07/an-open-software-services-ecology/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>MattKatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think I&#039;d add a hosted feed reader.  Google Reader is great - but why can&#039;t I have my own to hack on?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;d add a hosted feed reader.  Google Reader is great &#8211; but why can&#8217;t I have my own to hack on?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: balleyne</title>
		<link>http://autonomo.us/2008/07/an-open-software-services-ecology/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>balleyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess it&#039;s more &quot;webcasting&quot; than &quot;video sharing,&quot; but the University of Toronto&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://epresence.tv/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ePresence&lt;/a&gt; is worth a mention in the video category.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s more &#8220;webcasting&#8221; than &#8220;video sharing,&#8221; but the University of Toronto&#8217;s <a href="http://epresence.tv/" rel="nofollow">ePresence</a> is worth a mention in the video category.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: An Open Software Services Ecology :: autonomo.us &#124; Affected Clapping</title>
		<link>http://autonomo.us/2008/07/an-open-software-services-ecology/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>An Open Software Services Ecology :: autonomo.us &#124; Affected Clapping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] An Open Software Services Ecology :: autonomo.us. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: thetoon</title>
		<link>http://autonomo.us/2008/07/an-open-software-services-ecology/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>thetoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For the social bookmarking part, there is the excellent (but still WiP) Semantic Scuttle, which is a sequel of the now abandonned Scuttle. It is (or aims to be) del.icio.us-compatible and can be installed on any LAMP server.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The project is here : http://sourceforge.net/projects/semanticscuttle/
And an english demo : http://festic.fr/semanticscuttle/demo/en/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An OAuth-based cross-site sharing (kinda like what laconi.ca aims to do) would be a nice addition, btw.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Concerning social networking, one can have a look to elgg (http://classic.elgg.org). Not really decentralised, but at least OSS, easy to install on your own server and quite active. Plus there is a plugin to allow XMLRPC calls between instances of it (may serve as a start for decentralised behaviour).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the social bookmarking part, there is the excellent (but still WiP) Semantic Scuttle, which is a sequel of the now abandonned Scuttle. It is (or aims to be) del.icio.us-compatible and can be installed on any LAMP server.</p>

<p>The project is here : <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/semanticscuttle/" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/semanticscuttle/</a>
And an english demo : <a href="http://festic.fr/semanticscuttle/demo/en/" rel="nofollow">http://festic.fr/semanticscuttle/demo/en/</a></p>

<p>An OAuth-based cross-site sharing (kinda like what laconi.ca aims to do) would be a nice addition, btw.</p>

<p>Concerning social networking, one can have a look to elgg (<a href="http://classic.elgg.org" rel="nofollow">http://classic.elgg.org</a>). Not really decentralised, but at least OSS, easy to install on your own server and quite active. Plus there is a plugin to allow XMLRPC calls between instances of it (may serve as a start for decentralised behaviour).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: steveivy</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Evan,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You mention social networking - you might take a look at the work we&#039;re doing on the DiSo project. Distributed Social Networking, all open-sourced, and designed to be usable by any independent site operator (though we&#039;re evangelizing solutions that could be used by the big players as well).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--Steve&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,</p>

<p>You mention social networking &#8211; you might take a look at the work we&#8217;re doing on the DiSo project. Distributed Social Networking, all open-sourced, and designed to be usable by any independent site operator (though we&#8217;re evangelizing solutions that could be used by the big players as well).</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

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		<title>By: Alexandre Dulaunoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre Dulaunoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think a very good starting point would an alternative to del.icio.us with an API compatible with the existing del.icio.us API. That would ease existing software using del.icio.us API to still work with the new free service. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another interesting part, if a free alternative for del.icio.us has a large user base (500.000 users?). The data collected (urls, classification) can be used for a free search engine to crawl content bookmarked in the social bookmark services. That would ease classification of crawled web site.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the main issue is the continuous investment required/ to make a scalable free web services. Have you already discussed about the possibility of funding? not especially at the early stage but to keep the service running (bandwidth, hardware, human) and scalable when the number of user is increasing? and how to keep everything free when there is some funding in the process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot for this initiative,&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a very good starting point would an alternative to del.icio.us with an API compatible with the existing del.icio.us API. That would ease existing software using del.icio.us API to still work with the new free service. </p>

<p>Another interesting part, if a free alternative for del.icio.us has a large user base (500.000 users?). The data collected (urls, classification) can be used for a free search engine to crawl content bookmarked in the social bookmark services. That would ease classification of crawled web site.</p>

<p>I think the main issue is the continuous investment required/ to make a scalable free web services. Have you already discussed about the possibility of funding? not especially at the early stage but to keep the service running (bandwidth, hardware, human) and scalable when the number of user is increasing? and how to keep everything free when there is some funding in the process.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot for this initiative,</p>]]></content:encoded>
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